

Securely mounting your deck railing posts is one of the first steps in any successful deck railing installation. From traditional picket style railings to modern cable and glass alternatives, surface mounted deck posts will likely be an option. In this article we will discuss some common applications that require top mounting, as well as some recommendations for surface mounted deck posts. Top mounting the posts in any type of railing system will require a “surface mount.” This can be done in several ways and on top of different substrates; however the methods can vary. Roof top decks, parapet walls, and interior pony walls are all examples of situations where surface mounting is usually required. Decks and concrete patios are also surface mounted post candidates, but offer more opportunities for fascia mounted posts as well. Here are some of the most commonly encountered attachment methods for surface mounted deck posts : Dowels or rods (for setting wood posts) L Brackets (wood/steel) Post Bases and Sleeves (wood/composite) Welded Base plates ( Steel/Aluminum/Stainless) Mechanically fastened base plates (most commonly aluminum posts) Surface Mounting Wooden Deck Posts Interior railings that utilize wooden spindles are commonly attached to surfaces by means of dowels, rods, pins, or even by toenailing in some cases. However, for modern railings like cable and glass, these methods are not so common. Glass railings are heavy, most often requiring steel posts or a base shoe for attachment. Cable railing systems require very rigid frames in order to sustain tremendous tension loads. In either case, the use of welded steel “buckets”, “shoes” or “sleeves” is an effective way to handle this type of mounting scenario. Wooden post bases or buckets that are designed for structural applications should be bolted to the intended surface with a minimum of 3″ structural embedment. Additionally, the selected post mount should secure the posts in the loading direction like a jacket, bolted to the post itself and the substrate. A properly mounted post should be rigid without top support. Slipping or lifting of the post must be prevented when the post under lateral or tension loat, so a tight fitting base is necessary for proper function of the posts and railing frame. -How to shim railing posts on the deck surface- Wooden and Composite shims can be a simple and effective way to level your base plates and plumb your deck posts. If angles are too steep; the use of angled base plates or angled post mounts may be necessary. Installers can simply install the shims underneath base plates or post mounts to level the bases. Minor shimming can be easily hidden by caulking around the edges of steel base plates. This can also assist in preventing water intrusion or accumulation underneath base plates or mounts as time progresses. Hiding a post base can be accomplished by fabricating a post “skirt” out of the selected timber to match the posts. The Best Way to Attach Surface Mounted Deck Posts Our preferred method for surface mounting any steel railing post is by utilizing a welded base plate. When it comes to connection strength and durability; a welded and bolted connection is far superior to any mechanical connection. If surface mounting a steel or aluminum post is needed, try and select a welded post system. When a top mount is necessary for wooden post systems; try and locate a post mount that is approved or custom made for “non top supported” applications. If you have questions about what type of railing post is right for your application, give us a call at 844-277-7327 or visit the quote request page. Our sales associates can review your specific project options and pricing, as well as custom solutions that may be available to you.
Cable railing gates add functionality to any cable railing or fencing system by allowing access through the barrier. In comparison to standard privacy gates which can be bulky and/or solid; cable alternatives do this without losing the sleek aesthetics. San Diego Cable Railings custom cable gates can be made to any size and will match all of our most popular railing frame systems to include: galvanized steel stainless steel T304 and T316 exterior soft wood types (Cedar, Redwood) exterior hardwoods (Ipe’) Gates and Child Safety Cable railing gates utilize the same stainless steel cable infill systems as our cable railings. SDCR recommended 3″ on center cable spacing combined with machine swaged stainless hardware creates ample tension and a rigid frame. Our gates come furnished with heavy duty stainless hinges and latches for durability and utility. Stunning to the eye and almost indestructible; these gates will keep your children and pets safe inside. One question we often get is ” can I buy a stand alone cable gate?” and the answer is yes. Existing wooden fence posts, exterior walls, and block columns are all excellent ways to mount your cable gate. Some of our customers use their gates to partition openings to stairways, while others create ramp access, service gates for landscape work, and child barriers. We have installed our custom gates in marine environments as well as high heat and cold exposure with great success. [envira-gallery id=”4277″] Are Cable Railing Gates Expensive? When compared to standard wooden or vinyl privacy gates, stainless steel cable gates carry a higher price point. Steel cable gates are fully welded and most often powder coated for increased durability. The strength of our gate does not depend on a mechanical connection; nor do they swell and shrink like vinyl products. The lifespan of a cable railing gate outside in the elements is 30-50 years; which means you’re not likely to ever need to purchase another gate due to wear and tear. There is little to no maintenance other than occasional cleaning or wipe down in extreme environments. Ordering a custom cable gate is easy and fast using our quote request form. Simply provide the size of your opening and a photograph of the area or mounting situation and our estimators will return pricing within 24-48 hours. Customers with questions about our gates can also call our office at 844-277-7327.
Tempered Laminated Glass vs. Monolithic Tempered Panels There are two types of glass that are commonly used as infill panels for glass railing installations – tempered laminated glass and monolithic tempered glass. Tempered laminated glass is composed of two pieces, and a vinyl interlayer. Laminated panels allow the glass to break on either side of the laminate and cause any broken pieces to stick together. For this reason laminated glass panels offer added protection against falling pieces. Monolithic tempered glass is a single sheet of glass that has been tempered in order to increase durability. Monolithic glass panels have been used for years in safety glass applications and are often recognized by a stamp on the panel. It is important to understand the evolving code requirements as they relate to different types of glass and which is right for your project. When to Use Laminated Glass Panels for Handrails? Laminated glass may be required for railing installations in all locations where the railing overhangs or overlooks a walkway. This applies to both residential and commercial structures. Monolithic (single panel non laminated) tempered glass is allowed only in locations where there is no walkway under the glass railing. Another instance where this may apply is a permanently protected walkway that eliminates the risk of falling glass. Glass Handrail Codes for “No Toprail” Applications IBC requirements state that glass railing systems are to be designed with a top rail in order to hold glass in place during a breaking event. Top rails on glass systems can increase protection and lateral stability however very few customers desire a top rail on these systems. Exception to laminated glass- The exception to the top rail requirement for is when a glass system utilizes laminated glass panels that are designed to withstand loads outlined by the IBC. The new code states that ALL glass railings constructed without a top rail must include laminated glass panels. Click HERE for more details on the IBC requirements. Where to Purchase Glass Railings San Diego Cable Railings is a nationwide distributor of cable and glass railing systems with installation services offered in California. Our company offers a line of post and rail glass systems as well as clip and base shoe glass railings. If you have questions about glass handrail codes, or you would like info or pricing on our railings visit the QUOTE REQUEST page.
Bare Stainless Steel Railings for a Custom NorCal Lakefront Home A recent DIY customer in Northern California provided us with some beautiful images and a perfect opportunity to describe the purchasing process at SDCR. Potential customers looking to purchase cable railings will find the following information helpful for navigating the cable railing purchasing process: San Diego Cable Railings products can be purchased and fabricated easily by simply furnishing your images and some standard measurements. Specifications can be submitted by homeowners or contractors; we also have preferred installers who specialize in working with our products. Our featured photo was provided by a customer that contacted us by phone. He provided a general layout, as well as some angles and other details with the help of his general contractor. In order to maximize the quality and weather resistance of the railings ; they selected a bare stainless steel marine grade cable railing system. Our bare stainless steel finish is a low luster finish with a clean knock down appearance. The components of the railing system included: 2×2″ bare finished stainless steel posts (welded and bolted connections) 1×3″ bare finished stainless steel top rail (mechanically attached) T316 stainless steel cable @ 1/8″ thickness (hand crimp field hardware) Factory swaged cable assemblies and hand crimp field ends (cost effective) Stainless steel fasteners for post/rail structural attachment (ss screws, lags) Our sales associate provided an estimate within 24 hours. Our shop furnished a sample railing post as well as a section of top rail to assist with the finish options. We offer both bare finished metal and powder coated railing posts. The customers selected our bare stainless steel finish, as well as our hand crimped cable hardware that most closely matched our factory swaged hardware. Concealing visible hardware or creating consistency throughout a railing design is an excellent way to achieve a professional grade end product. SDCR staff communicated with the customer throughout the fabrication process; mostly via email and occasionally over the phone in order to confirm specifications. The project was completed in phases. Primarily the upper deck railings were constructed; followed by the lower deck and stairs. Our welded bare stainless posts were custom made to accommodate the exact angle of the stairs. Although fabrication can be performed from drafted plans, taking measurements and angles is often most effective when done on finished surfaces. Purchasing and installing a custom cable railing system is a streamlined process with San Diego Cable Railings products and installation services. We offer both cable railings and glass railing systems; quotes for DIY and professional installation are available. If you have questions about how to purchase cable railings, or would like an estimate; please visit the quote request page.
Transparent railings minimize the amount of vertical and horizontal obstructions that can impede your views. This is accomplished in several ways; minimizing post counts and/or sizing is one method. Another way to design more transparent railings is by removing or minimizing the top railing member. Material selection and color choices can also contribute largely to the transparency of each railing system. In this post we will review some of the available choices consumers can utilize for the most transparent railings. Transparent Railing Materials For Selected Applications Stainless steel cable railing systems and glass railings are currently the most popular options for maximizing views outside. The last few years have seen a tremendous increase for these railings inside as well. Which one is right for your application? Consider the following factors about each railing type: Glass Panel Railings Glass railing systems provide excellent wind resistance, as well as transparency Low maintenance on components, but regular panel cleaning is needed outside to maintain transparency Extremely durable, great lifespan Cost factors can be high; glass systems without top railings may require laminated glass Harder to DIY If a windbreak is needed, glass is hard to beat. Tempered glass panels work great for outdoor dining areas, fire pit seating and poolside applications where wind is an issue. Cable Railing System Transparency Stainless cable is extremely transparent and when paired with the right framing system it is a very effective infill for maximizing views. Ultra slim spreader posts and minimal top railing profiles can combine for invisible railing frames. Here are some other important points to consider about cable railings: Cable railings are extremely low maintenance There are no panels to clean; however there is no wind resistance with these systems Cable railings offer an amazing lifespan of 30-50 years even outdoors in harsh environments Usually more cost effective than glass DIY capability is very good for many cable railing applications What are the Most Transparent Railing Colors? In our experience the most transparent railing color is not a color at all. Bare stainless steel can actually be the most transparent color of all. Arguments can always be made for black railings at night, or certain colors in certain settings; but bare stainless is the most widely used. Other good choices for transparency are grey tones and earth tones in landscape settings. Bare stainless and metallic finishes, as well as light grey work great in coastal applications. Since 2009 San Diego Cable Railings has been furnishing transparent railings to a nationwide customer base of pros and DIYers. We have an online store, and preferred contractors who specialize in railing installation. If you would like an estimate on a railing system or if you have questions about cable or glass railing systems; give us a call at 844-277-7327 or visit our quote request form.
Techniques to consider when installing railings involving dry decks, or irregular lipped decking. A drip edge is a metal flashing that is usually shaped like an L. The flashing is installed at the edge of a roof or dry deck, coated balcony etc. The drip edge directs water away from the fascia board and protect your home from damage. Drip edge flashings are required by most building codes. Much like a bullnose or lipped edge; a drip edge will create a projection which can interfere when connecting a railing post. Experienced deck builders will often lip the edge of wooden or composite decks for similar reasons to using a drip edge. The goal is always to move water out and away from the deck or roof fascia. Lipped or irregular edges can pose challenges for post installation; but there are some effective railing installation techniques used to approach these challenges. Notch Cutting for Posts, Top Mounted Railings, and Utilizing Post Standoffs One of the easiest ways to fascia mount railing posts to a lipped edge is to use a “notch cut”. The notch cut is not typically used for dry deck scenarios, but for stairs or lipped decking it works well. Installers simply notch the decking to the depth of the lip so the post mounts flush to the fascia. It should be considered that a notch cut could increase the chances of water being trapped in between the post and decking or fascia. Notches can be enlarged to allow for drainage and airflow in the gaps, or they can be cut tight and sealed in order to improve longevity. An effective notch cut can provide a seamless look and add extra rigidity by locking the post in multiple directions. Another effective way to avoid an irregular edge is by using a “standoff”. Post standoffs are basically shims that can be fabricated out of wood, composite or steel. The standoff member is sandwiched in between the post and deck; secured by mounting bolts, Welded standoffs offer an extremely stout connection by adding a mounting plate for steel posts; the thickness can be modified to push the post outside an irregular edge. Care should be taken to ensure the bolts selected are long enough to properly connect the post based on the thickness. Standoffs are just spacers, they do not provide structural support and should not be counted as embedment. Railing Installation Techniques forTop Mounted or Recessed Railing Posts If the application permits the use of top mounted railing posts, it is a very good way to avoid the fascia entirely. There are of course other considerations for top mounting; some decks do not have blocking or structural members for which to attach the posts. Other decks may have slopes or waterproof members that will not allow for penetration. However, for standard decks or new construction; blocking and top mounting works excellent. Level concrete decks, hardwood and composites are all great top mounting candidates. San Diego Cable Railings provides customers with technical assistance and railing products designed for a multitude of mounting scenarios. We offer nationwide shipping for all of our most popular cable and glass railing systems; as well as preferred installation in the state of California. If you have questions about railing products or installation by our preferred installers, give us a call or visit the quote request page today.
There are many different post configurations possible when considering a cable railing layout. One thing we get a lot of inquiries about is the use of 2 posts vs. a single post to turn corners. Here is a Q and A list of some frequently asked questions about corner post call outs with respect to cable railing systems: Why do cable railing systems use 2 posts when turning corners? -Quite simply a 2 post corner allows for a continuous cable to turn a corner without stopping and starting a new run. As illustrated in the photo above; the cables continue around the corner at a 45 degree angle through the posts. Are there benefits to using 2 posts vs. 1 post? -From a cost standpoint there are benefits to using 2 posts to turn a corner. The double post corner reduces the amount of necessary hardware that comes with breaking a cable run at a single corner post. Aesthetically, the preference is really up to the individual. Some customers like to see hardware or minimize the post count. Others prefer to minimize the hardware or the cost outweighs the aesthetic preference. Single Post Corner Aesthetic Which type of corner post design is stronger? -For a number of reasons the 2 post corner creates a stronger frame and connection. Using two posts will distribute the tension load over more surface area with twice the number of connections to the subfloor. A single post will actually experience twice the tension load in different directions when 2 separate runs of cable terminate on a single post corner. Which applications are good choices for a single post vs. two post corner? -Small spaces and interior railings will often benefit from, or even require the use of single posts. The photo above is a great illustration of a single post application. Another example could be a small “L” or “U” shaped section with short sides that would be cumbersome with too many posts. – Large decks and fences will more often utilize two posts in an effort to span single cables as far as possible to reduce cost. A double post can also be an effective way to break and start a new cable run when large spans exist and the installer must break the cable. Which type of corner is best for my design? By providing our sales staff with photos and/or measurements of your project we can recommend the best configuration for your railing system. Based on your preferences and some of the considerations in this article we can come up with a cost effective and attractive railing system for your home. Code Compliant , Cost Effective Railing Systems San Diego Cable Railings has been producing high quality interior and exterior railing systems since 2009. We ship our products nationwide and offer preferred installation up and down the California coast. If you have questions about corner post design or would like an estimate for cable or glass railings; give us a call at 844-277-7327 or visit the quote request page today.
Many of our potential customers are doing research about different railing types and witnessing a wide variation in costs associated with these systems. Cable and glass railing cost can vary based on a number of factors; this article provides some guidelines to help you understand some of the reasons for varying cost, and pricing guidelines for your project. The short answer to the cost comparison question “cable vs. glass” leans towards glass railings being more expensive than cable railings. Although this is not always the case, it is more common. Both glass railing cost factors and cable railing estimates can vary based on some of the following considerations: : -Interior vs. Exterior Applications -Frameless vs. framed glass or post/clamp -Stairways and Ramps vs. Level rail scenarios -Custom fabrication vs. modular railing systems -DIY and professional installations Readers should take note that many factors contribute to cost and that the information provided is based on cost averages of a variety of different railing jobs. Interior vs. Exterior Railing Cost Comparisons Interior railings will usually present a higher price point than exterior railings. The main reason for this is that as the lineal footage grows, the material cost per foot comes down. Interior jobs are smaller in scale but usually make up for it in complexity. Larger fences or deck rails will present a lower actual cost per foot despite a higher overall cost because of the sheer amount of lineal footage. Interior railings are often tricky; and the interior of a home presents more liability than something like an exterior fence job. Turnkey cost estimates for interior glass railings can range from $250 – $600 per lineal foot for labor and materials. Interior cable railing systems will often range from $180- $300 per foot for labor and materials. Almost all interior stair projects will require custom fabrication of some type due to angles and mounting challenges associated with stairs. Custom fabrication is on average more expensive than a modular “kit” railing system. Railings for exterior decks and fences are more cost effective to construct than interiors from a lineal footage standpoint. These installations often make better candidates for DIY projects than interiors. The average cost for exterior glass fences and railings can range from $200-$450 per lineal foot for labor and materials. Exterior cable railing systems will range from $150-$250 per lineal foot for labor and materials. Base shoe glass railing systems will often require thicker or laminated glass panels thus raising the costs associated. Pre fabricated railing systems will generally fall in to the lower end of the above mentioned price points, while custom fabrication will represent the higher end of the price points. Additional factors could include the use of stainless steel vs. mild steel or galvanized; engineered products vs. off the shelf or big box products. Jobs with complex angles or curves will often result in higher price points as well as the possibility for more design or engineering work associated. DIY Cable Railing and Glass Railing Systems DIY installation can present excellent cost saving opportunities for the consumer as labor costs often represent approximately 1/3 to 1/2 of total installed railing costs. Level rail scenarios like fences or straight rails are good opportunities too DIY. From a system standpoint we believe that cable railing kits are a far more commonly encountered way to pursue DIY railing projects than installing glass. However there are many tools and tutorials to assist DIY installers with cable or glass railing projects. San Diego Cable Railings is a company dedicated to providing high quality cable and glass railing systems. We offer nationwide shipping and preferred installation of these systems in California. If you would like pricing or information about stainless cable railings or glass railing cost; visit the quote request page or give us a call at 844-277-7327.
Nationwide Shipping and Preferred Cable Railing Installation Powder coated stainless steel posts, Ipe’ hardwood and 1/8″ stainless steel cable infill combined for stunning results at one of our recent installations in Sherman Oaks, CA. The elevated location with mountain views and a gorgeous pool called for something elegant and transparent to blend into the existing landscape. Charcoal colored railing posts were selected for transparency and nighttime use; Ipe’ top rails were used to match the existing deck. This was a challenging installation due to the unique mounting situation, angles, and of course the remote setting for the project. The railing system was 100% pre-fabricated at our production facility in San Diego, CA. High quality installation and minor modifications were performed on site by the guys at SD Independent Construction. The project took a total 4 days on site to complete. Attachment Details- Welded mounting plates and concrete anchors were used for the masonry post attachment; creating a formidable barrier with the rigidity of a solid wall. Lag bolts were used for attaching posts to wooden framing. For top railings 2″x4″ Ipe’ hardwood timbers were chosen for their durability and beauty that will definitely stand the test of time. Type 316 Stainless Steel Cables for Transparency and Durability The beauty of stainless steel cable is that it often reflects its surroundings. We find this to be true in natural and water front settings. Cable railings provide a high end look that can be designed to look natural in landscape settings. Using a product like T316 stainless cable is a good idea on poolside decks with so many traditional pool builds now converting to saline (salt water) . San Diego Cable Railings offers Nationwide shipping and installation services for cable and glass railings up and down the California coast. Our production team and preferred installers have produced high quality fences and railings for customers in San Diego, Orange County, LA, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo and San Fransisco. In addition to our in house cable railing products we also offer glass railing systems and products by Feeney. If you would like to learn more about Los Angeles cable railing installation or if you have questions about our cable railing products ; visit the quote request form or give us a call at 844-277-7327 today.
Minimalist designs and products are in high demand. Our sales team receives requests on a daily basis for the most transparent and minimal railing frames and products we have to offer. Over the years we’ve built and tested all types of railing posts and frame systems in actual field conditions. This article aims to provide some information to our customers who want to utilize the most minimalist railing posts and hardware that any particular building application will safely permit. Our company offers a variety of different products and mounting systems with minimalist aesthetics in mind. Listed below are some of our minimalist railing products with descriptions: Flat Bar Cable Railing Posts- Possibly the least amount of visible obstruction from a vertical post; flat bar cable railing posts have an exceptionally minimal profile at 3/8″. Flat bar cable railing posts can also be called intermediate spreaders, pickets, or spreader posts. These posts can be alternated with 2″ structural posts to broaden viewing “windows” allowing for larger spacing in between standard posts. SDCR “ultra slim spreader posts” utilize welded connections making for a very rigid post despite their minimal profile. We have even seen our customers use them consecutively across a span of field posts while only using structural posts on the ends and corners for tension. We do not however, recommend the use of flat bar posts for any tension post. 1.5″ Stainless Steel Square Railing Posts 1.5″ square posts are an excellent option for both cable railing systems and glass railings. These posts can be capped with a low profile 1″x2″ top rail or even a standard 2″x4″. San Diego Cable Railings 1.5″ stainless steel posts can be used for glass panel railings by mechanically fastening “clips” or ” U channel” to the railing post with self tapping screws. Welded mounting connections ensure the ability to satisfy lateral loading requirements. This post system can be a great option for minimalist stair railings and can also satisfy a graspable railing requirement when utilizing 1″x2″ cap rail. Base Shoe for Glass Railings- Despite the fact that a base shoe is not exactly a railing post; it’s definitely worth a mention. Base shoes are used to secure glass panels via connection of the shoe to the base material (wall, deck surface, etc.). Base shoes are often constructed of mill finished aluminum which is lightweight and strong; allowing for free standing glass panels and absolute transparency. Shoe systems provide a safe support system for glass panels without the use of posts, clips or top railings. One caveat to the use of a base shoe could be the need for thicker glass panels. It is not recommended to use less than 3/8″ tempered glass panels and most commonly 1/2″ is called out for base shoe glass railing installations. Fully framed glass railing systems and clip systems will accommodate smaller 1/4″ tempered glass panels. San Diego Cable Railings is a full service fabricator and distributor of cable and glass railing systems. We offer turnkey solutions for sales and preferred installation of cable and glass railing systems, products and DIY railing systems. If you have questions or would like pricing our minimalist railing posts, visit the quote request page today.